I had looked at it earlier and put it off as inferior, but that was when I was leaning more towards the build that was mostly ninja. This is exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for! I think I may have figured out a way to make this work. I think his build was Cavalier 16, Paladin 2, Tactician Fighter 2 or something like that. The only class I know will be in the group in a Cavalier, most likely going Beast Master. I realize that if I had a flowing monk in the group I could accomplish this, but someone is playing a Flowing Monk in the campaign I currently run, so it is unlikely to be played in this one since most of the players are the same. This way I can toss Dazzling Display and Shattered Defense from the build and possibly get the combo going sooner. So what I'm looking for is something like the flowing monks ability that will make people flat footed. Once shaken I take my full attack and the first hit makes them flat footed due to Shattered Defenses. Getting them shaken this way is better than Enforcer in my opinion since it doesn't require hitting them using up one of my attacks. The idea here is I use the extra manuever first from monk to use Dirty Trick to make them shaken. Ninja 16/Maneuver Master Monk 2/Unarmed Fighter 2 or Vivisectionist/Beastmorph Alchemist 16/Manuever Master Monk 2/Unarmed Fighter 2 are the most likely with what I have so far. There are a couple different builds I'm looking at. I'm leaning towards going unarmed to make use of Knockout Artist as well. So obviously it will be a non lethal sneak attack build. I'll have to think about that one some more.Įssentially the goal is using Sap Master and finding classes/abilities/feats that synergize with it for a jade reagent campaign I'll be playing in soon. Thanks for Catch off Guard, there may be some great uses with that.
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